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Interview: Postnatal realities in Relationships

Life After Baby: What Happens to Us?


I had the privilege of speaking with Moms After Dark ZA about one of the most important—and least talked about—transitions a couple can go through: life after having a baby.


While we often celebrate the arrival of a new baby with joy and excitement, the truth is that the postpartum period can be deeply challenging for both parents. Yes, there is often a beautiful “baby glow” in the beginning—but as sleepless nights, physical recovery, and identity shifts settle in, many couples find themselves feeling overwhelmed, disconnected, and unsure of how to navigate their new normal.


During the interview, we focused on the emotional impact not only on the birthing parent, but also on the partner who didn’t give birth—a perspective that doesn’t get nearly enough attention.


I discuss  what Postnatal Depression Might Look Like in the Non-Birthing Partner


Many people are surprised to learn that partners can experience postnatal depression too. The symptoms might look a bit different, but they are just as valid:

• Increased irritability or withdrawal

• Feelings of helplessness or resentment

• Loss of interest in things they once enjoyed

• A sense of failure or inadequacy

• Difficulty bonding with the baby


This can be especially hard if both partners are silently struggling but don’t know how to bring it up—and that’s where communication becomes vital.


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Rebuilding Connection: After a baby is born, couples often shift into survival mode. But a healthy relationship requires tending—even more so during this tender time. 


Support Before and After Baby Arrives


The truth is, there’s no way to fully prepare for the emotional impact of becoming parents—but you can build tools, understanding, and realistic expectations that support your bond through the transition.


I offer in-person and online counselling sessions for expecting couples and for new parents, helping you navigate the relationship shifts and identity changes that naturally arise during this stage.


Whether you’re preparing for a baby or already in the thick of new parenthood, you’re not alone—and you don’t have to figure it out without support. Reach out to book a session if you’d like help navigating this season with greater connection, compassion, and clarity.

Because when a baby is born, so is a new version of each partner—and your relationship deserves the space to grow, too.


Listen to my interview with Madge from Omnimedia MOMents podcast here on Youtube or search for it on Spotify.

Why Do We Keep Having the Same Fight?

Stuck in the same argument on repeat? Learn why couples fight the same fight over and over — and how to actually break the cycle.

  

If you and your partner keep having the same fight — about dishes, money, in-laws, sex, who said what — the topic on the surface is almost never the real issue. Recurring fights are a pattern, not a series of unrelated arguments. You’re both stuck in a loop that gets triggered before either of you has time to think. An infinity loop of triggering each other.

Let's try to understand what’s actually happening, and how to start breaking the cycle.


The Fight Isn’t About the Dishes

Every couple I work with has a version of this: the argument starts about something small and forgettable, and within minutes it’s turned into something enormous — old wounds, past betrayals, “you always,” “you never.” That escalation is the sign. It means the fight was never really about the dishes. It was about something underneath the dishes that never got resolved the last ten times you fought about them and likely the way in which the conversation is being had.

Recurring fights persist because couples keep re-litigating the content (whose turn it was, who’s right) instead of addressing the pattern (what keeps getting triggered, and why neither partner feels safe enough to stop defending and start listening).


What You’re Actually Fighting For

Esther Perel’s framing is useful here: most relational conflict falls into one (or more) of three core categories.

• Power and control — Who gets to decide? Whose needs take priority? Am I being controlled, or am I losing my say?

• Respect and recognition — Am I seen? Do you value my effort, my opinion, my time?

• Care and connection — Do you still choose me? Am I still a priority? Are we still close?

The real work is drilling underneath it, because “respect” or “control” mean something very specific to each partner, shaped by their own history.

For example, two partners fighting about money might both be fighting about “control” on paper — but one is actually fighting to prove I’m not a child who needs managing, while the other is fighting to prove I’m allowed to have needs without being called selfish. So in session I like to drill down to the different underlying fears or needs. 

This is where I ask couples to get more precise: not just “what are we fighting about,” but “what does losing this fight mean to you — about yourself, about your partner?”; "What is the need that has to be met?"


Relational Life Therapy adds a layer that’s often missing from standard communication-skills approaches: how each partner’s self-esteem is showing up inside the fight.

Most of us default to one of two positions when we feel threatened in conflict:

• Tending towards grandiosity — Defending, criticising, lecturing, needing to be right. Giving their most unbridled opinions. 

• Tending towards shame — Shutting down, over-apologising, appeasing, losing your voice entirely, desperation. 

These position related to self-esteem also show up with a tendency towards favouring a certain position in boundaries. You might see steam-rolling, desperation, withdrawal, violence, meanness and more show up as a result. 


Repeat fights often persist because both partners are locked into their respective position, and neither has learned to speak from what RLT calls their “wise adult” — the mature self that can hold a boundary and stay respectful, that can ask for something and tolerate your partner’s discomfort with the asking. The side of us who can see out self-esteem in balance with other humans and who can stay connected whilst also still being able to sufficiently protect themselves. 


Why the Fight Escalates: Regulation Comes First 

None of the above is accessible if your nervous system is flooded. This is the piece couples skip past, and it’s often the actual reason the “same” conversation keeps failing.

When either partner feels emotionally threatened, the body responds before the mind does — heart rate spikes, thinking narrows, and you move into fight, flight, fawn or freeze. Once you’re flooded, you are neurologically not able to access empathy, nuance, or your “wise adult” voice. You’re running on threat response, which is exactly why the conversation loops back to the same accusations every time — you’re not having a conversation anymore, you’re both defending against a perceived attack.


Regulation is therefore a critical conflict communication skill:

• Learn to notice your own early signs of flooding (heat in the chest, clenched jaw, racing thoughts, urge to interrupt, sentences of insult running through your head).

• Agree on a signal to pause — not to avoid the conversation, but to let both nervous systems come back online.

• Take a real break: 20-30 minutes minimum, ideally with something physically regulating (walking, breathing, stepping outside) — not stewing on your phone rehearsing your rebuttal.

• Return to the conversation once you can both speak from curiosity rather than defense or judgement.

Skipping this step is why so many “use an I-statement” scripts fail in the heat of the moment — the script is a cognitive tool, and you don’t have access to cognition yet.


The Story You’re Telling Yourself

Underneath almost every recurring fight is a private narrative that never gets said out loud. Something like: he doesn’t respect my time, she’s going to leave eventually, I always have to be the one who cares more. These stories usually formed once, early, from a specific moment — and now every similar-feeling moment gets filed under the same story, whether or not it’s actually true this time.

Part of the work is learning to decode: what’s the emotion underneath my reaction right now, and what’s the story I’m telling myself that’s producing it? Then there needs to be safety created so that you can bring that story to your partner as a shared problem to examine together, rather than as an accusation to defend against. And this I spend quite a bit of time on in session. 


Breaking the Cycle: A Starting Framework

1. Notice the pattern, not just the topic. Name it together outside of a fight: “We seem to have a version of this fight about once a month — let’s talk about what’s underneath it.”

2. Regulate before you resolve. If either of you is flooded, pause. Nothing productive happens above a certain heart rate.

3. Get precise about what you’re fighting for. Power, respect, or connection — and then, specifically, what that means to you.

4. Notice your position. Are you grandiose (defending, correcting) or going into shame (collapsing, appeasing) or are you staying pretty balanced? Can you find the wise-adult version of your point instead?

5. Share the story, not the verdict. Bring your interpretation to your partner as something to examine together, not as a fact about who they are. No criticism. 

6. Repair as a team. The goal isn’t winning the fight. It’s understanding what the fight was protecting, and building a way to protect it that doesn’t require conflict to get there.


Couples rarely break these cycles alone — not because they lack insight, but because it’s genuinely hard to regulate, get precise, and stay in the wise-adult position while you’re inside the fight itself. That’s the work I do with couples in session: slowing the moment down enough to see the pattern clearly, and building the skills to interrupt it before it runs its usual course.

If this sounds familiar, couples counselling / premarital counselling might be the next step — not to eliminate conflict, but to change how conflict is approached. 


FAQ


Why do couples keep having the same argument over and over?

Because the surface topic (money, chores, in-laws) is rarely the real issue. Recurring fights usually protect an unresolved need usually around power, respect, or connection.


Is it normal for couples to have the same fight repeatedly?

Yes, to a degree — most long-term couples have one or two recurring themes. We are all busy healing things.  It becomes a concern when the fight escalates quickly, doesn’t resolve, or leaves either partner feeling more alone afterward rather than closer.


How do you stop having the same fight in a relationship?

Start by naming the pattern outside of the heat of an argument, learn to recognise and regulate flooding before trying to resolve anything, and get specific about what each of you is actually fighting for underneath the surface topic.


Should we take a break during an argument?

Yes, if either partner is flooded (racing heart, narrowed thinking, urge to attack or shut down). A real break — ideally 20-30 minutes with physical movement — allows the nervous system to settle enough to think clearly again. Be clear about when you are returning to each other - both take responsibility. 


When should a couple consider counselling for repeat conflicts?

If the same fight has been recurring for some time without resolution, or you can see that you two are struggling to communicate constructively about a recurring theme, couples counselling can help identify the underlying pattern and build new skills to interrupt it.


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Understanding Consent: A Vital Response to South Africa’s Rape Crisis

South Africa faces a severe challenge with sexual violence, recording one of the highest incidences of rape globally. In the 2022/2023 fiscal year, approximately 53,500 sexual offenses were reported, with around 80% being rape cases (statista). 


These alarming statistics underscore the urgent need to address the fundamentals of consent. The World Health Organization (WHO) emphasizes that sexual health requires a positive and respectful approach to sexuality and relationships, ensuring experiences are free from coercion and violence. 


Key Principles of Consent:

  1. Freely Given: Consent must be provided without pressure, manipulation, or under the influence of substances.
  2. Reversible: Individuals have the right to withdraw consent at any point, and all activity must cease immediately upon withdrawal.
  3. Informed: All parties should have a clear understanding of the nature of the activity they are consenting to. True transparency is needed to ensure full informed consent. 
  4. Enthusiastic: Consent should be an active, eager agreement, not merely the absence of a “no.”
  5. Specific: Agreeing to one activity doesn’t imply consent to others; each act requires its own consent.


From a sociological perspective, promoting these principles is essential in combating the normalisation of sexual violence. Implementing comprehensive sexuality education (CSE) is a proactive approach. CSE provides young people with accurate, age-appropriate information about sexuality and sexual health, fostering respect, consent, and bodily autonomy (Unesco guidelines). 


Well-informed individuals are more likely to make responsible choices, leading to positive health outcomes and a reduction in sexual violence incidents. 

Addressing South Africa’s rape crisis necessitates a collective effort to instill and uphold the principles of consent, ensuring that all individuals can engage in relationships characterised by respect and mutual agreement.


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Reclaiming Safety in the Body: My Experience with TRE® (Trauma & Tension Release Exercises)

Your Body Remembers – And It Can Also Heal


When we go through something traumatic—whether it’s a sudden shock, prolonged stress, or early childhood wounding—our bodies remember. Even if our minds try to move on or forget, the tension and survival responses often remain held deep in the muscles and nervous system.

This is where TRE®, or Tension & Trauma Releasing Exercises, comes in.


TRE® is a somatic body-based practise developed by Dr. David Berceli. It’s grounded in the understanding that the body has a natural, built-in mechanism for releasing stress and trauma: neurogenic tremoring. Think of how your body might shake after a fright—that trembling is your nervous system discharging excess adrenaline and coming back into balance. Unfortunately, many of us have been conditioned to suppress this—told to “hold it together” or “stay strong” rather than let the body do what it’s designed to do.


In TRE®, a trained practitioner (like myself) helps clients safely access this natural tremor response through a series of gentle exercises, creating a safe space for the body to release what it couldn’t at the time of the trauma.


Making the Body Feel Safe Again


What makes TRE® so profound is that it starts with the body—not the story. Rather than analysing or reliving past experiences, it gently invites the nervous system back into a state of calm and safety. For many people, especially those with trauma that feels unspeakable or hard to put into words, this is where deep healing begins.

As someone who both practises TRE® personally and facilitates it for clients, I’ve witnessed the subtle but powerful shifts it can bring. I’ve seen chronic tension soften, deep emotional release arise, and a renewed sense of connection to the self—all without needing to “talk it through” in a traditional sense.


Why I Integrate TRE® with Talk Therapy


While I value the insight and depth that talk therapy offers, I also recognise its limitations—especially when it comes to trauma. Talk therapy works from the top down: engaging the mind in an attempt to reach the body. But trauma often lives beneath the surface, beyond language or logic.

That’s why I integrate TRE® into my work with clients. It helps create enough safety in the body for deeper emotional work to unfold. When the nervous system is calm, the mind can follow.

This approach is especially useful when someone feels overwhelmed by triggers, stuck in their process, or unsure how to access what they’re feeling. TRE® offers a grounded, somatic entry point into the healing journey.


The Science Behind It: Trauma Lives in the Body


If you’ve read The Body Keeps the Score by Dr. Bessel van der Kolk, you’ll be familiar with the idea that trauma isn’t just psychological—it’s physiological. Dr. van der Kolk explores how trauma reshapes both brain and body, and why body-based practises like TRE® are crucial to real, lasting recovery.

I often recommend this book to clients who want to better understand the science behind what we’re doing. It sheds light on why simply talking through an experience is sometimes not enough—and why involving the body is so essential.


If You’re Curious About TRE®…


You don’t need to have gone through a major trauma to benefit from TRE®.

We all carry stress. We all have moments when our bodies didn’t get to complete their natural stress response. TRE® can help you release built-up tension, reconnect with your body, and feel more grounded in your day-to-day life.

Whether you’re preparing to go deeper in therapeutic work or simply looking for a tool to regulate your nervous system, TRE® offers a gentle, effective path to healing—from the inside out.

If this resonates with you, I’d love to support you.

Your body holds so much wisdom—and it’s never too late to start listening.

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Why should I go for relationship counselling to a sexuality counsellor?

Most people think sexologists only deal with sexual issues. In reality, my work is about intimacy, connection, communication, and the ways your body, history, and environment shape how you show up in your relationship. Even when your sex life feels “fine,” there is often far more happening beneath the surface.


My approach is grounded in a bio-psycho-social-cultural understanding of who you are. That means I look at the whole picture: your biology, your psychology, your relational patterns, the stressors around you, and the cultural messages that shaped your beliefs about love, touch, safety, and identity.

I pair this with a strong somatic foundation. Your nervous system, your body’s responses, and your physical patterns matter just as much as your thoughts and conversations. Insight alone doesn’t shift things; the body has to be part of the process for real change to hold.


In our work together, we explore how you connect, how you protect yourself, what shuts you down, and what helps you open up. We talk about the things couples often avoid: desire, boundaries, shame, emotional safety, and the ways stress or trauma affect closeness. You get space to understand yourself and your partner without judgment or pressure.


This is not crisis-only work - it’s growth work. My goal is to help you resolve the issues that can be resolved — and then build the internal capacity to stay regulated, connected, and less reactive in the parts of the relationship that continue to challenge you.

This approach is direct, grounded, and deeply respectful of the complexity of being human. If you’re ready to do relationship work that includes both the mind and the body, both the personal and the cultural, you’ll find that sexological counselling offers depth and is action-oriented. 


📩 Ready to explore? Get in touch and let’s start the conversation: info@lovecounsel.co.za or whatsapp +27 64 534 7046


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PAIA Manual

Promotion of Access to Information Act (PAIA) Manual

Prepared in accordance with Section 51 of the Promotion of Access to Information Act, 2000 (Act 2 of 2000), as amended, and in support of the Protection of Personal Information Act, 2013 (Act 4 of 2013).

Version: 1.0
Effective Date: July 2026

1. Practice Details

Practice Name:
Marizanne Naested – Sexuality & Relationship Counselling

Information Officer:
Marizanne Naested

Email:
info@lovecounsel.co.za

Website:
www.lovecounsel.co.za

The Information Officer is responsible for ensuring compliance with the Promotion of Access to Information Act (PAIA) and the Protection of Personal Information Act (POPIA), including the handling of requests for access to records held by the practice.

2. Introduction and Purpose

This PAIA Manual has been prepared in accordance with Section 51 of the Promotion of Access to Information Act, 2000 (Act 2 of 2000).

The purpose of this manual is to:

  • Describe the categories of records held by the practice.
  • Explain how requests for access to records may be made.
  • Outline how personal information is processed in accordance with POPIA.
  • Promote transparency while protecting the confidentiality and privacy of clients.

Marizanne Naested – Sexuality & Relationship Counselling is committed to safeguarding the dignity, confidentiality and privacy of every client. Personal information is processed only for lawful purposes and in accordance with applicable South African legislation and professional ethical standards.

3. Information Regulator Guide

 A guide explaining how to exercise rights under PAIA is available from the Information Regulator.

Website: https://inforegulator.org.za

Email: enquiries@inforegulator.org.za

Telephone: 010 023 5200

4. Nature of the Practice

Marizanne Naested – Sexuality & Relationship Counselling is a private counselling practice providing professional counselling services to individuals and couples.

Services include:

  • Relationship counselling
  • Couples counselling
  • Premarital counselling
  • Sexuality and intimacy counselling
  • Individual counselling
  • Trauma Release and Access Bars work
  • Workshops and presentations

5. Categories of Records Held

 The practice may maintain records including:

Client Records

  • Client intake and registration forms
  • Informed consent forms
  • Clinical and counselling notes
  • Session records
  • Referral letters
  • Client correspondence
  • Appointment records

Financial Records

  • Invoices
  • Receipts
  • Payment records
  • Accounting documentation

Practice Administration

  • Professional registrations
  • Practice policies
  • Service agreements
  • PAIA and POPIA documentation
  • Business administration records

Electronic Records

  • Electronic client files
  • Email correspondence
  • Website enquiries
  • Appointment scheduling records

6. Categories of Personal Information Processed

 Personal information processed by the practice may include:

  • Name and surname
  • Contact details
  • Identity information where required
  • Emergency contact information
  • Health and psychosocial information relevant to counselling
  • Relationship and family information
  • Clinical notes
  • Appointment history
  • Billing and payment information
  • Correspondence between the client and the practice

Special personal information, including health information and information relating to a person's sex life, is processed only where necessary for the provision of counselling services and in accordance with POPIA.

7. Purpose of Processing Personal Information

 Personal information is collected and processed for purposes including:

  • Providing professional counselling services.
  • Maintaining accurate clinical records.
  • Scheduling appointments.
  • Communicating with clients.
  • Processing payments and issuing invoices.
  • Complying with legal, ethical and professional obligations.
  • Facilitating referrals to other healthcare professionals where appropriate and with the client's consent, unless otherwise required by law.

8. Storage, Security and Retention of Information & Disclosure of Information

Reasonable technical and organisational measures are implemented to protect personal information against unauthorised access, disclosure, alteration, loss or destruction.

Client records are stored electronically using secure password-protected systems.

Personal information is retained for the period required by applicable legislation and professional ethical requirements. Records are securely disposed of once the applicable retention period has expired.

Access to client information is restricted to the Information Officer and authorised persons where necessary for the operation of the practice.


Personal information is treated as strictly confidential and will not be disclosed to third parties except where:

  • the client has provided informed consent;
  • disclosure is required or authorised by law;
  • disclosure is necessary to prevent serious harm;
  • disclosure is required by a court order or subpoena; or
  • disclosure is necessary for lawful professional purposes, including professional supervision or consultation using de-identified information wherever reasonably possible.

9. Requesting Access to Records & Grounds for Refusal

Any person requesting access to records held by the practice must submit a written request to the Information Officer at info@lovecounsel.co.za.

The request should include:

  • Proof of identity.
  • Sufficient detail to identify the requested record.
  • The right the requester seeks to exercise or protect, where applicable.
  • Contact details for correspondence.

Requests will be considered in accordance with the provisions of PAIA.

The Information Officer will respond within the timeframes prescribed by the Act.


 

Access to records may be refused where permitted by PAIA, including where disclosure would:

  • Unreasonably invade another person's privacy.
  • Disclose confidential personal information relating to a third party.
  • Breach legal or professional confidentiality obligations.
  • Disclose legally privileged information.
  • Endanger the safety of any individual.
  • Prejudice legal proceedings or the lawful interests of the practice.

10. Fees & Complaints

Where applicable, requests for access to records may be subject to the fees prescribed under the Promotion of Access to Information Act.

The Information Officer will advise the requester of any applicable fees before processing the request.


 

If a requester is dissatisfied with the handling of a request, a complaint may be lodged with the Information Regulator.

Information Regulator (South Africa)

Website: https://inforegulator.org.za

Email: PAIAComplaints@inforegulator.org.za

Telephone: 010 023 5200

This manual is available:

  • On the practice website: www.lovecounsel.co.za
  • Upon request by emailing info@lovecounsel.co.za
  • In accordance with the requirements of the Promotion of Access to Information Act.

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Marizanne Naested
Information Officer

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Effective Date: July 2026

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